IPR contributor Andy Jacobs has had a long history with former Libertarian Party presidential candidate Lee Wrights. In 2011, Andy wrote:
Lee Wrights is a phony. He’s a dreadful candidate. The man is a loser and he’s also a backstabbing two-faced weasel. Go pick up a homeless bum off the streets and take him to Goodwill and buy him a cheap suit and that’s Lee Wrights.
These remarks were a big inspiration behind Nathan Norman’s Functional Fillmore Frugal movement, which, from February 2013 to September 2014 focused on preventing “hobos”, like Wrights, who hurt the credibility of the Libertarian Party, from representing the party as candidates. One achievement of the movement was stopping Wrights from running for Governor of Texas in 2014.
Now, fast forward to 2017, and someone named “Lee”, showed up on IPR, seemingly with the singular purpose of trolling Andy. The first thing he wrote, in a sarcastic tone:
I agree with Andy, he makes many excellent points here. For further elucidation:
Hey look everybody, one of the IPR trolls is back, and this time the troll is calling himself/herself “Lee”.
My sincere apologies if I’ve infringed on Andy’s space. Although I am not a big fan of the idea of intellectual property, except when I am, I try not to infringe on any trademarks as a general rule, unless I feel like it. As such, I recognize that my views are so similar to Andy’s that he may feel legitimately ripped off – deprived of his property, if you will – when I post comments here. I realize Andy has somewhat of a monopoly on being IPR’s resident troll, except when he doesn’t.
After clicking on Lee’s link, which goes to the Andy Jacobs blog, Andy angrily argued:
I did NOT post or write that article, and that is not my website. “Lee” is obviously a troll, probably working for some government agency, and is likely the source of the article and the website.
It is an act of fraud to falsely claim to be somebody, or to attribute things to them that they never said.
We still are not sure if Andy is actually running that particular blog or conducting a major troll operation.
In response to Andy’s denial, Lee stated:
Andy: “I did NOT post or write that article” … so who said you did? I know of no one who has made such a claim. Can you point to any comment that did?
“and that is not my website.”
No duh. It appears to be a parody of you. I think Eric Dondero had one devoted to him a few years ago. I don’t think anyone, even Eric, was dense enough to think it was actually Eric’s site or that anyone was trying to suggest that it was. And that’s what makes you so very special, Andy.
““Lee” is obviously a troll, ”
Again, my apologies for violating your exclusive franchise.
“probably working for some government agency”
No way! *They* work for *me*.
“and is likely the source of the article and the website.”
I also shot JFK, faked the moon landing, and planted the bombs in the twin towers.
“It is an act of fraud to falsely claim to be somebody,”
Yes, yes, But is it also an act of fraud to falsely claim that someone else is falsely claiming to be somebody?
” or to attribute things to them that they never said.”
So why are you attributing something that no one ever said, like for example that the parody site claims to actually be you? I mean, who ever said that? Name one person, one time, who said that.
The situation escalated as Andy ejaculated:
It “appears” to be??? You are the asshole who put the site up. No go fuck off and die.
Lee shot back:
“It “appears” to be???”
Yes, it sure does!!!
“You are the asshole who put the site up.”
Evidence? Proof? Remember, as you said…“It is an act of fraud to attribute things to (someone) that they never said.” So why are you committing fraud against me, you fraudulent fraudster you?
(For the record, no, I didn’t put that site up and have no idea who did).
“go fuck off and die.”
After you, I insist, mon cherie.
Whoever this “Lee” asshole is, they have obviously been posting here for a long time, as they seem to have lots of knowledge about various things that have been discussed here over the years. I suspect that “Lee” may be somebody who used to post here under their real name way back in 2008 and 2009.
“Lee” said: “(For the record, no, I didn’t put that site up and have no idea who did).”
Maybe it was somebody who works an earlier shift than you work at the government troll center.
Nice try, but yet another logic fail from handy Andy. Let’s examine how he does it this time:
A) What knowledge do you speak of? Can you provide any examples? Even one?
B) It’s possible to read and not post here, so even if I had knowledge of things that happened here for years (and I can’t think of what the fuck Andy is talking about) I would have been able to pick it up without posting.
C) The old threads are still available, so even if you had some evidence that I had read them that doesn’t exactly prove that I read them way back when they were first posted, does it?
So how exactly is it “obvious” that I have been posting here for years? Please do explain. Your failure will be a great illustration for why your logic is so faulty not just on this but on all sorts of issues and matters.
It’s obvious that Andy is actually a Martian, because he barks like a chicken and I suspect that he was at Sandy Hook because the earth is flat, dude. Gay frogs!!!
“Maybe it was somebody who works an earlier shift than you work at the government troll center.”
So it WAS you after all! Nice to know. And thanks for taking off early without letting me know, asshole. Also, clean up your coffee and cum stains next to the computer from now on, I am tired of cleaning up after you.
Andy then got a little off track:
Somebody, or some group of people, have been trolling here for years. If you are not the same person who has posted under fake names like “Vernon” and “Randy” and etc.., I bet that you are connected with them. I don’t know who you are working for, but it is likely some government agency.
January 13, 2017 at 23:29
‘Maybe it was somebody who works an earlier shift than you work at the government troll center.’
So it WAS you after all! Nice to know. And thanks for taking off early without letting me know, asshole. Also, clean up your coffee and cum stains next to the computer from now on, I am tired of cleaning up after you.”
Nice dodge, but I’m on to you.
A certain Concerned Citizen then got involved to try to clear things up:
Isn’t it obvious that Lee is in fact Lee Wrights whom Andy has had problems with?
LOL! Nice try, but I don’t buy that for a second.
Of course, subconsciously, he did buy it, as we shall see.
Lee, in responding to Andy’s earlier comment, wrote:
Somebody, or some group of people, have been molesting all the pets in the neighborhood for years. If it’s not Andy, I bet he is connected with them. I don’t know who Andy is working for, but it’s likely the Vatican. Or maybe the illuminati. One thing’s for sure, I wouldn’t leave my pets alone with him if you know what I mean.
Nice dodge, but I’m on to Andy. It’s obvious that he knows a lot about all these pet incidents including details that only those committing these hideous crimes could possibly know. And by obvious, I mean I have no evidence whatsoever and can’t cite a single example when pressed, even if all the evidence is posted for everyone to see on a public website so even if he did know all that stuff all that would show is that he read the website. However, I have failed even by that standard, so the next step after I get caught on that one is to say that Andy must somehow be connected to it anyway, because the guy across the street has a green handkerchief in his left pants pocket and the wind is blowing from the west. Or, actually, just because.
Also, this clearly shows that Andy works for the government, most likely in a troll center, because governments have a tendency to hire incompetent people who can’t make it in the private sector and with the truly amazing logic skills that Andy has shown in this particular exchange (as well as many others) where else could he possibly find employment? Ergo, Andy must be the one and only true troll. QED. Wait does that mean I’m Andy? Am I talking to myself here? Help!
Andy then made the comment in which he subconsciously let on that he believes Lee might in fact be Lee Wrights:
It is time for a physical removal, a la Hans-Hermann Hoppe style. Somebody throw this “Lee” bum the hell out of here.
Notice the use of the word “bum”, which Andy also used in the original quote from 2011 to refer to Lee Wrights.
Lee then commented:
Yes, you can’t mislead Andy about who the one and only true troll is. Andy knows EXACTLY who it is with 100% certainty. As I said…QED.
It is time for a physical removal, a la Augusto Pinochet style. Somebody throw this “Andy” bum the hell out of a helicopter! And for Kek’s sake, throw his freakin’ gay frogs out with him.
After seeing all this, Concerned Citizen remarked:
Didn’t Andy say (and thus establishing the Functional Fillmore Frugal movement) Lee Wrights is nothing but a hobo in a cheap suit? Now someone with the name Lee shows up with a beef against Andy. Coincidence? I think not.
We may never know if “Lee” is in fact Lee Wrights trolling for revenge, but it sure makes for an interesting story.